These are not from famous brands like Montbell, Caravan, or Keiryu, but they are adequate river shoes for stream climbing. I use the same ones myself, and I bought these for my husband, but the size didn't fit, so I'm selling them. The soles use 10mm thick felt, so your feet won't hurt even on rocky riverbeds, and they were fine for climbing. (Please understand that this is based on personal experience when purchasing.)