OP's light gray snowboard pants with 10,000mm water resistance. - Brand: ocean pacific - Model name: DEORA-NB - Water resistance: 10,000mm - Breathability: 8,000g/m²/24h - Color: Light gray There are some minor stains and dirt from use, but overall they are in good condition. Depending on the location, they are cheaper than rental gear at my home ski resort. How about these for beginners, those who are just starting out, or as a second pair for experienced riders?