My son bought these as used clothing. He tried to alter the length and unpicked the hem. He then stored them as they were. He says he doesn't want to wear them anymore because of the width. They appear to be from overseas. The width looks cool, but I guess it depends on the person who wears them. They are clean. There wasn't much sign of wear. Length from belt to hem: 98 cm Inseam: 73 cm Waist: Approximately 80 cm