Hammond Design 12ML This is a Hammond Design 12ML (large bore). It has the same rim size as a Schilke 51/Bach 5. This is the standard cup in the Hammond Design trombone line. The ML cup combines elements of both conical and bowl shapes, and is widely chosen by many players who seek a focused yet colorful sound. There are marks on the shank where the mouthpiece was inserted, but overall it is in good condition. Thank you for looking. Price negotiations are welcome. Please feel free to contact me. *The third image was dark and difficult to see, so I changed it to a brighter one.*