Both items were worn approximately 15 to 18 years ago. Both have a used feel. The gray one doesn't seem to have any noticeable scratches or stains, but the navy one has some fading, so please check the photos. Measurements (flat lay, approximate): Gray: Shoulder width: 40.5 cm Width: 46 cm Length: 58 cm Sleeve length: 15 cm Navy: Shoulder width: approx. 40 cm Width: approx. 42 cm Length: approx. 57 cm Sleeve length: approx. 17.5 cm Both items were worn back then and are old, so please understand that they are used clothing. They will be folded compactly and shipped via Yu-Packet, so please be aware of any folding wrinkles. I am also listing these on other sites, so they may be removed.