Both are denim pants from Pensee. One is high-waisted with a slightly thin and flowy fabric. The back pockets are a key feature. Rise 30cm, Inseam 67cm, Thigh width 28cm, Hem width 31cm, Waist 70cm The second pair is slightly low-waisted, and made of 100% cotton, so it has more firmness than the first pair, but the fabric is still soft for denim. The front pockets are a key feature. Rise 25cm, Inseam 72cm, Thigh width 27cm, Hem width 26cm, Waist 72cm I've forgotten how many years ago, but it's been at least 5 years. There are no noticeable stains or damage.