I purchased these new from the happy plus Store. I only wore them for a short time, 1-2 times, with socks, but I did walk outside in them. ★No outer box★ They are very comfortable, but they don't seem to stay on my feet because I have very wide feet and a low instep. The width can be adjusted in various ways, so I think they would be fine for people with a normal or higher instep. Please understand this before purchasing. Please refrain from purchasing if you are overly concerned about details.