★ Both items are almost unused and have been stored at home. ★ It seems like I tried them on, but maybe I didn't... ★ I haven't taken them outside, so I think they're in good condition. ★ I couldn't fold them properly, and the navy blue storage bag has torn. ★ The size feels like a standard one. ★ They were too big overall for a petite woman, and the neck size seemed too small for a large man, so they didn't fit my family... I'm selling them. ★ I think they're the right size for men and women of average build.